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Maren
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A question for my American Trakehner friends:
I mentioned to Ingrid before that I'm in the middle of writing another longer "mare family" article for the ATA magazine, sort of the style I had the Kassette article in. I'd like to know who else has Tapete offspring in NA besides Tannenwald (and you do have superb offspring, Ingrid;-)
I'd be really interested in finding our more. Thanks.
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TANZBRISE by Windfall out of Tariana
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Hi Maren,
Thanks for the compliments!  By the way, your CDs will be on the way to you shortly.... 
Ricarda Barton-Wall and Marie Luise Barton of Castell Imperator Hof own Tapete girls. They imported several mares of that line and actually bred our Tara, Tannenwald's foundation mare. They have The Princess Conde', Taharani, The Noir vom Castell, Tschadina, and maybe other girls I don't know. They have a Kaspareit colt out of one and sold a full brother to him already.
Bonnie Brabbs had Tapferkeit; don't know if she still does.
I think the crew at Rolling Oaks still has Taurose by Graditz, a daughter of Tapferkeit and the dam of Tradition and the newly approved Tzigane.
If I think of more I will let you know. Can't wait to see the article! 
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HI Maren,
Are you interested in the entire list of Tapete descendants or only in exceptional performers? Either the office or Vicki Aranda could provide you with a list of these and Vicki can probably rattle off major performers as well. If you consult the ATA website you can find them as well. Tapete is a VERY widespread and popular family here in North America particularly in the Midwest where I live. Your best bet is to contact Ricarda Barton who has fostered this line from the beginning bringing several representatives of the family with her from Germany. There are dozens of representatives of this family here.
Probably the first representative of this family was Talent( Komet x Tara, Semper Idem), imported in 1963 by Gerda Friedrichs. Talent had 11 foals three of which died( one a set of twins) one was the approved stallion Antritt by Loretto.
Antritt was the sire of two exceptional performance mares, Taiga and Tudaya both out of Tundra by Himilaja. Tudaya competed through Intermediare II Taiga competed through Fourth level, winning the Trakehner Forderverein award in 1979 and the Gerda Friedrichs in 1989. He also sire Antrim, an AHSA champion hunter and dam of a very famous champion hunter whose name eludes me at the moment- I'll ask Vicki.
Talent's daughter Tadellos produced five foals including Taleschimmer by Donauschimmer whose son Toyon is competing at Prix St. Georges: Trabant by Zauberklang who was last years champion at training level and reserve at first in the Midwest Dressage Association awards
and Tanzmusik by Donauschimmer produced approved stallion Talon DF by Preussengeist who stands out in California. Tanzmusik also produced Trauereien by Falke and has a daughter Tanzenwolke in California and a daughter Tanzenbelle by Memphis which was USDF All-Breeds R./Young Rider Reserve Champion .
Taleschimmer also produced the gelding Tiburon by Martini who is competing at Intermidiare I and in 1999 was fourth place in the USDF All-Breeds Adult Amateur Prix. St. Georges.
Talent's daughter Tralestie also produced fillies though I don't know if the fillies have bred on.
Talent's daughter TAussendank produced four foals, one filly.
Tosca II *E* (Harnisch x Taika, Magister) has produced two approved sons Tribute by Buetow and Toscanini by Donaufurst and was awarded the Gerda Friedrichs award in 1981. Toscanini was gelded and is a successful hunter and an AHSA Zone 4 champion. Tribute won the Caesar memorial cup and and was reserve champion training level combined training. He competed in first level dressage and was also champion mature stallion at Dressage at Delaware. He has had somewhat limiting life due to ownership squabbles and farm shifts. Tosca is the dam of something like a dozen offspring and her unapproved son Thorn was ATA champion 3 year old colt/ gelding in 1992 and champion stallion in 1993. Daughter Toscana also by Donaufurst competed in dressage and was a reserve champion in hand. Tosca's daughter Tonga has at least three offspring two of which are fillies
Tansania had 12 foals three which stayed in Germany , two born there which were imported with her to found the vom Castell T line. Her descendants are legion and most of her female offspring have bred on, frequently in large numbers.
Tarabia*E* by Maharadscha out of Tansania had eight foals and produced two approved stallions, Tauroggen and Tausendsassa both by Ricardo. She was awarded the Gerda Friedrichs award in 1992. She was ATA champion 1st level in 1985 and champion 2d level in 1986. Her son Tanzmeister by Avignon II won ATA champion titles in 1988 and 89. Several of her daughters are producing both in the Midwest and out west in California
Tansania's daughter Tjabine also has a number of foals and if I am not mistaken competed in Germany with Ricarda Barton before she was imported. Tjabine, foaled in 1971, was alive last summer though I do not know if she still is. A wonderful old mare with a lot of personality who has passed her look down very strongly to Tapferkeit and Tapferkeit's daughter Taublume.
Tapferkeit is the dam of full sisters Taurose*E* and Taublume by Graditz as well as champion hunter gelding Top Class by Butow. Taurose*E* produced approved stallions Tigre and Tradition and also full sisters Tierra del Fuego, Tigris and Tivoli . Tierra was Grand Champion of the ATA mare show in 1996 and is competing in dressage.Tigris was reserve champion filly in the ATA in 1992 and is competing in dressage and Tivoli was ATA champion yearling filly in 1993 and champion 2 year old filly in 1994. There are several other full siblings from Taurose *E* who is still producing and Tivoli went straight into the broodmare band.
Taublume, Taurose's full sister produced three fillies by Butow- Truffles, Tanzerin von Licht and Thibodaux as well as colt by Kitfox which died of colic. Tanzerin won her filly class at the ATA mare show the year The Noir won and as far as I know never showed again.
Interestingly, Tapferkeit has a tendency toward twinning and Taublume also exhibited this tendency. I have no idea about Taurose*E*.
I mention Taublume not because she is well known or particularly outstanding but because she belonged to my friend Jamie and was the first Trakehner I ever rode. She has the sweetest temperament imaginable and wins friends wherever she goes.
As Ingrid mentioned, Bonnie Brabbs bought Tapferkeit and brought her west and has several fillies from her. Contact her for more information.
Off hand I can mention that Ta Conde, daughter of Tansania produced The Noir vom Castell who won Grand Champion mare at the 1994 ATA Mare show and was Grand Champion Sporthorse, Grand Champion Open Breeding and Grand Champion Trakehner at the Midwest Equestrian Festival in 1995. She was the dam of the Enrico Caruso colt you saw at the ATA meeting last fall though I was surprised that he didn't equal what I expected that cross to produce. The Noir's son by Advocate, Timepiece, is a champion hunter.
Also imported were Taormina by Schwalbenfuerst which had 7 foals here 2 of which were fillies. Her daughter Tapete II by Meilenstein was also imported but returned to Germany after producing just one filly, Tacera by Morgenstrahl. The daughter Tabriz by Solist stayed butI have no other information about her.
Tilsit-Ragnit was imported in 1979 and produced five foals, two of which were fillies.
Tralestie by Donauschimmer had five foals, two of which were fillies.
The imported mare Tagetes by Etong has one stud book daughter Tryllium by Insterfuerst but no foals listed in the book.
The imported Tanagra by Leonardo produced a filly by Troubadour named Tabitha in 1985- no other information.
The imported Tarogna by Arogna had a bay filly Tresor, by Tuemmler in 1988, but that is all I have on her.
The imported Tatina by Memelruf has no foals listed.
The imported Tessa by Falke had a Donauwind filly, Tourmaline.
None of this is complete and I don't have any information about the former NATA horses which will include Tapete descendants.
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Lisabeth
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whoops! I seem to have misread the post. Okay, people who have Tapete. Jill Norman of Normanwood Farms, Jay Albrecht had Tapete mares , The Goodmans of Wonderland Farms worked with the Talent mares, Ursula Liakos had Tropennacht but Ursula has died and I don't know where her T mares have gone. Guenter Bertelmann imported Tosca II but I believe he no longer breeds Trakehners, Carla McPherson did have Tropennacht (daughter of Tarabia) mares. I believe her farm is Hawk Haven or Hawk something anyway and she is online. Barb Iwinski who bred Taurose and TAublume no longer breeds Trakehners but I could contact her if you want information specifically about Tapferkeit.
Rolling Oaks has Taurose and I imagine they must have a replacement filly around there somewhere!
rolloaks@elnet.com for rolling oaks
http://www.americantrakehner.com/HawkHaven/
http://www.chezrisette.com/ is Bonnie Brabbs page email: chezrisette@earthlink.net
Castell Imperator-Hof (Ricarda Barton)
Address RR#2, Box 130
Sorento, IL 62086
Phone (217) 456-6011
Fax
email castell@pocketmail.com
PLEASE contact Ricarda and tell her I sent you! I was at her place two years ago and took loads of photos and spent hours recording her so I could write an article for the ATA magazine about her breeding program. I have never found the tapes or photos- they disappeared into a great black hole somewhere and my memory is so bad I can barely remember what she said. I'm sure she'd love to share information about the Tapete family with you! 
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Family of the Tapete / Trakehner
Tausendschön v. Memelruf - Donauwind - Prince Rouge xx - Impuls
for example the following stallions: Tambour (Hess), Tarino (Holst), Tenor (Hann), Timber (Hann), Trabant (SUI), Tradition (USA), Travell (Holst, DK), Tuareg (Holst, Elitehengst), and Elite-mare Tilsit III
Tenor
Anläßlich des Hengstmarktes 1999 in Neumünster wurde Tenor zum Trakehner Hengst des Jahres 1999 ernannt
Trakehner Hengst des Jahres 1999
Ein großer Trakehner Hengst erstrahlt in neuem Glanz.
Mit seinem Zuchtwert Dressur von über 120 und einem sehr guten Vererbungsindex Exterieur (Gesamtindex über 100 / viele Einzelwerte über 120) verkörpert Tenor Typ, Körper, Gang und Sportlichkeit des modernen Trakehnerpferdes.
Tenor war 1980 Reservesieger, ein Jahr später absolvierte er seine HLP in Adelheidsdorf mit einem Gesamtindex von 117.66, hier wurden besonders sowohl seine Rittigkeit als auch seine Leistungsbereitschaft sehr hoch eingestuft.
Seine acht gekörten Söhne (Trakehner/Zweibrücken), viele gekörte Enkel, zwei Siegerhengste (Trakehner/Zweibrücken), ein Reservesieger, ein Prämienhengst und eine Vielzahl von Prämien- und Staatsprämienstuten in vielen Zuchtgebieten bestätigen seine einmalige Kombination von Eigen- und Nachkommenleistung als einer der einflussreichsten Hauptvererber der Gesamtpopulation
Tenors Vater Tümmler war der erste Bundeschampion des Deutschen Geländepferdes 1979 in Münster-Handorf unter Martin Plewa. So ist es nicht verwunderlich, dass der Elitehengst Tenor schon in der Zuchtwertschätzung von 1996 einen Springindex von 112 aufwies.
Seine Mutter, die hoch bonitierte Elitestute Tilsit hatte insgesamt 3 gekörte Söhne, die alle inzwischen Elitehengste sind. Tenor ist bis heute der einzige lebende Elitehengst, der einen Vollbruder, einen Halbbruder und einen Sohn hat, die alle die begehrte Auszeichnung tragen. Auch dies ein eindeutiges Zeichen der überlegenen Vererbungskraft dieser Blutlinien.
Auch im Fahrsport setzt Tenor Zeichen, sein Sohn Wolfsburg war eines der erfolgreichsten Fahrpferde der Nachkriegszeit, seine Enkeltochter Graziella ist 1999 das beste Trakehner Fahrpferd bundesweit gewesen.
Über Tenor und seine Abstammung sollte man wissen, dass er auf den bekannten Hengst Pythagoras eingezogen ist. Dreimal sind sowohl der Pythagoras Sohn Totilas als auch der Pythagoras Enkel Goldregen im Pedigree von Tenor zu finden. In der männlichen Linie stößt man des weiteren auf den Tempelhüter - Halbbruder Jagdheld v. Perfectionist XX, mütterlicherseits auf die Hauptgestütsfamilie der Tapete. In der dritten Generation findet man den Anglo-Araber Burnus. Ein klassisches Pedigree wie man es heute leider nur noch selten findet.
Im offiziellen Hengstbuch des Trakehnerverbandes wird er so beschrieben: "Ein Hengst in mittlerer Körpergröße (Körung 162 cm; heute 166 cm), aber großem Rahmen von überragender Gesamtqualität. Vorzüglich in Typ und Aufmachung, äußerst korrekt von Kopf bis Schweif, nahezu vollendet in Selbsthaltung und Harmonie der Körperproportionen. Beispielhaft in der Geschmeidigkeit des Bewegungsablaufes im Gang."
Tenors Nachkommen im Sport findet man vor allem im Dressursport. Über 70 "Tenöre" mit über 850 Platzierungen Jahr für Jahr in den Klassen A, L und M garantieren schon seit vielen Jahren einen Dressurzuchtwert von weit über 120. In der letzten Zeit kamen noch 5 Nachkommen mit S-Platzierungen hinzu, darunter Honfleur mit Grand-Prix Erfolgen.
Im Springen mit Granini und dem gekörten Enkelsohn Humanus, im Fahren mit Wolfsburg findet man weitere S-Pferde in anderen Reitsportdisziplinen.
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namur
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Trakehner Stallion Tenor
Foaled : March 11, 1978
16. H Brown
Girth- 190cm Cannon- 20.4cm
By Tümmler
Out of Tilsit III
by Herzbube
Bred by Gestüt Panker, FRG
Approved Neumünster 1980
*Reserve Champion*
HLP Adelheidsdorf 1981
Sire of: Farnesco, Hamamelis,
Iglesias, Itaxerxes, Korado,
O'Grady, Shannon, Zauberstab
Damsire of: Humanist, Tanzmeister
"A medium sized, large framed stallion of outstanding overall quality. Excellent in type and presence, extremely correct from head to tail, almost flawless in self-holding and harmony of the body proportions. Exemplarily in the suppleness of his way of going. One the most important sires of the present, who quite reliably passes on his type, caliber and body harmony. His children are distinguished by correct, strong foundations and usually productive, energetic and lightfooted movements." ---German Trakehner Hengstbuch
I hope this information would be helpful to you!
bye.
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here some infos of tenor's father Tümmler:
Foaled January 3, 1972
15.3¾ h. Bay
Girth- 73.6" Cannon- 8.1"
By Heros
Out of Tuberose
by Burnus (AA)
Bred by Kurh. Hausstiftung Schmoel, FRG
Owned by Barbara J. Johnson, CA
Approved 1974 Neumünster
HLP 1975 Klosterhof Medingen
*Reserve Champion*
1979 DLG Champion
Imported January, 1984
Sire of: Hilarius, Isidor, E.H. Tenor
and Tivano
Standing:
1975-1978 Kurh. Hauss. Schmoel, FRG
1982-1983 Kurh. Hauss. Schmoel, FRG
1985- Tulucay Farm, Napa, CA
"Quite powerful stallion with very good depth of girth, Trakehner head with a somewhat broadly attached ear, well shaped masculine neck, much shoulder and withers; good mid-section, somewhat sloping croup of medium length; strong foundation with very good hocks. Always moving in balance and rhythm with good ground-covering strides." -- German Trakehner Stallion Book
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I think and hope so that he is still alive...?
In 1996 he got retired.All I know is that he was still alive in the year 2000.
see you
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Hi to everyone interested in the Tapete family. I have 2 trakehners. A yearling by Hennessey, and I just bought Tschadina from Ricarda Barton-Wall. Tschadina is at a dressage barn (Brier Bank Farm) about 15 miles from Ricarda's farm. There are several in the "T" line at the barn--Tschadina, Tansanita, Torcado, and Tasha will soon be returning to the barn. I'm looking forward to working with Tschadina and presenting her for inspection in 2003. Barb
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Congratulations on your new Tapete girl! I think Tschadina is an Enrico Caruso out of The Princess Conde, in which case she would be a half sister to our Tara. Nothing like those Tapete ladies--they have such aristocracy!
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Yes, I'm really excited about Tschadina's future. However, I'm fairly new to the Trakehner world and any help would be appreciated. I know about the St Louis Dressage Society and the ATA web sites, but where else can I look for shows that inclue "in hand?" Tschadina needs a lot of ground work right now.
I've learned a lot from this site already. Barb
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Lara, Gryphon Farm
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Good luck with your mare, Barb. How old is she? The USDF has a Breeder's Championship series available for horses five and under, or those to be used for breeding (or in foal). The USDF's site has their 2003 calendar up for dressage, but not yet for the BC, but you can look at the 2002 link to get an idea of the availability in your area. http://www.usdf.org/events/
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Thanks for the info on the USDF. Tschadina was 5 in September. Thanks again, Barb
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"I think the crew at Rolling Oaks still has Taurose by Graditz, a daughter of Tapferkeit and the dam of Tradition and the newly approved Tzigane"
Tzigane is out of Thisbe (Tekoa), who was a Condus daughter and a full sister to Tarim and Templehuiter(spelling?)
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"I think the crew at Rolling Oaks still has Taurose by Graditz, a daughter of Tapferkeit and the dam of Tradition and the newly approved Tzigane"
The Stallion Tzigane is out of Thisbe (Tekoa) who is by Condus. She was a full sister to Tarim and Templehuiter (spelling?)
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Maren
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Hey guys, you're mixing up something. Tzigane etc. are not of the Tapete family, but of the Sabine family!!
Tzigane is living with his owner Kim Hunter in Texas (well, sort of, rest of the season is with Eberhard Biesenthal in IL).
Tradition and Tigre are both out of the Tapete family.
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