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Sarah
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Does anybody have any pictures or know where I can find any of the stallion Troubador? My horse is a grandson of his and I have always wanted a picture of him. I searched high and low and cannot find anything. If anyone finds any, you can email me at sfcasey@students.wisc.edu
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Karim
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Try to contact Penny at the ATA office for some older issues of the ATA magazine. You should be able to find his pix in them.
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Karim
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Come to think of it, there was a nice article written about Troubadour & his owner, Edith Kosterka who passed away. Just ask Penny. She may be able to help you out.
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Sarah
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Thank you so much! Maybe my search will finally be over!
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susan
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You may also want to check w/ the University of Illinois. I believe he is still there.
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Sarah
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Which university exactly are we talking about? Champaign, Springfield?
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susan
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Champaign. I just noticed that he has been deceased since 2001. He was part of the Edith Kosterka Trust.
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Sarah
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I just wanted to let you all know that I emailed the ATA and they seemed to have ignored my questions about this matter. I'm not too thrilled about this, but I realize they possibly did not get my message for one reason or another. Still disappointing. Anybody else have any ideas or have any info?
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Jennifer
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Hi, Sarah!
I think I have some photos of Troubadour at home from old ads in the ATA magazine and older versions of the stallion book (although they may be the same conformation picture). If I can find them, I'll try to scan them and attempt to post them here. It may take a few days for me to do this since I'll be waiting to get my air conditioning fixed tomorrow and I have to worst memeory sometimes. And I'm now riding two horses after work, so sometimes I only have enough energy to shower before I fall asleep!
I don't know why the ATA removed or didn't include the stallion photos from "Stallions from our Past". These photos exist and were in the old stallion books.
I was told by someone who bred a few mares to Troubadour, that although he was fairly substantial in size, he seemed to have a more refining influence than you might expect, and his offspring often had finer bone than he or the mare had. At least, that was her experience. I saw him once at an ATA meeting, but all I recall about him was that he seemed pretty big. I was new to Trakehners then and the ATA meeting was held at a stable where I was taking riding lessons in Maryland.
Jennifer
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Sarah
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Wow! Thank you so much! Even if you could email those pictures to me after scanning them in I would be so grateful. If you do, my email is sfcasey@wisc.edu.
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sherry
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Sarah--I just wanted you to know that if you didn't get a response from the ATA, it was not a matter of indifference--two of the three folks who staff that office have been on vacation, and the workload really piles up for them We need more office help that we have, and certainly more than we can afford.
Jennifer's comments about Troubador are interesting to me--I bred a Fabius daughter out of a Troubador mare last year--this mare is really big boned, and probably stands 17 hands--I bred her to Pyatt Charly, who was 17 hands himself--and certainly of the older, heavier type. She gave me a stunning filly this year--VERY REFINED--go figure.....I do think that Berlinetta (the Troubador daughter) was more refined, if I remember correctly.
I know at least a couple of places that I can look for photographs of Troubador--I'll search around and see what I can get for you......
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Suzette B
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I live very near to where Edith Koesterka's farm was located, and was there quite a few times over the years before she died and the farm was broken up. I knew Troubadour and quite a few of his offspring.
I can say that he was not popular as a breeding stallion, because he did not reproduce himself. He was not "prepotent". Usually, he "threw the dam" on the foals. And because of his substance, he usually attracted mares of lighter build. The few more substantial offspring all seemed to be from heavier type mares.
Because he was not popular among breeders, there are not very many offspring of his around these days.
He was a truely fabulous performance horse - and had a trot that was airborne - a foot off the ground. He had the Flaneur trot!
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