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Wendi
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On another board, ignorance is flying! There is an individual that says Arab blood is undesireable in any WB. Would love to hear everyone thoughts.
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sherry
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OMG-well I certainly disagree--as does the Verband and the ATA--maybe they are thinking of Percheron-TB crosses 
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Wendi
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The post started as tb-draft horse X (which is careless breeding imo) and now one of the responses is arabs are in the same class as apps and paints. That just makes me furious!
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Elena RUSTRAK
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As for Russian Trakehner breeding we can not image our horses without Arab or Thoroughbred blood. We should necessarily use the blood of these breeds, but we should use it rather carefully and only the best stallions of desired type and pedigree. Just try to remember the following horses - show jumping legend in Germany ALMOX PRINTS J, dressage miracle of Dr. Reiner Klimke BIOTOP, superb dressage gelding PODKHOD or ATA approved stallion OSKAR - they all are impossible without Arab blood. 
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fuzzy
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Arabs lumped with paints and apps? aaauuuggghhh! A good arab is very much like a little warmblood, minus some jumping ability. And a WB/Arab cross reliably produces a 'real' sporthorse in a size more appropriate for smaller riders. Obviously, these folks don't know a lot about Arabs, and have been told a lot of rot. Hopefully they'll get out in the real world and learn different. I used to think the dish face was the result of a vacuum on the inside, but it didn't take long for me to learn different.
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Wendi
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Here is what was said: (not by me)
"I also don't ever care to use Arabs, nor Paints, nor Apaloosas in modern warmblood breeding. Arabs played a role, in the past as refiners, but not now. I refuse to use TB on the dam's side, as well. To me, these are all equally undesirable in contemporary warmblood breeding. My mere opinion, and my breeding program. I include Arabs among apaloosas and paints because, to me, that are equally undesirable in a modern warmblood's close pedigree."
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sherry
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Guess what folks--it's his/her opinion and breeding program. As for me, I'm delighted with my two arab-trakehners--one of which has been entered into the ORB book as a colt! A good arab trakehner cross is excellent for the smaller rider--they can excel at dressage, and hit the half-arab sport horse market with a bang. Just my opinion, and as we know, ask ten people and get ten opinions. By the way, guess she wouldn't think much of my purebred Trakehner sabino colt----
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Amanya
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Whoever is stating that Arab blood doesn't belong "in warmbloods" hasn't done their homework fully. For example, ask them to read up on Ramzes, an arab known as "The Sire of the Century." Foaled in 1937, he has had a major influence on many warmbloods..... You might want to pass this tidbit of actual fact along.
The more information someone has, the better the decisions they can make. Otherwise, decisions are made in ignorance, and opinions end up being invalid.
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Jennifer
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Just a slight correction. Ramzes was an anglo-arab. He was by the TB, Rittersporn.
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Suzette B
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Well, actually, Ramzes was an Anglo-Shagya, not an anglo-arab.
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Navar
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As Sherry pointed out: her opinion and her breeding program and she is entitled to both. However, I hate the additional bad press for the Arabs. I own both Arabians and Trakehners and find seperate issues with each. Yes, the Arabs can be easier to distract and more difficult to keep focused, but if they trust you, they will generally do ANYTHING you ask. My Arabian stallion would walk over hot coals for me if I told him it was allright. However, my Abdullah daughter will not until I prove to her that those hot coals are not going to hurt and won't just take my word for it. She finds small wooden bridges particularly terrifying to cross and the Arab stallion doesn't bat an eyelash. Nonetheless, both are wonderful in their own way. My stallion is a fabulous jumper. Would I ask him to jump five feet given that he is 15 hands, no. But he does move better than two of my three Trakehners. I can't wait to see a resulting cross with one of my big girls. Oskar is on my short list of Trakehner sires I want to use as I find him lovely. He should be fabulous on a big mare who needs refining and elevation in the gaits.
Does anyone out there have a mature cross of an Arab stallion on a purebred Trakehner mare? Most of the crosses have been Trakehner stallions on Arabian mares, but I prefer the hot blood on top. A lady I know in South Carolina is breeding her Arab stallion to her Anglo-Trakehner mare and the resulting crosses are really nice!
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