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« on: November 06, 2001, 04:29:37 AM »

Does anyone know if foals of European stallions can be registered with the ATA without having to pay an extra license fee?  I know Judy Yancey has Kostolany semen, several places have Caprimond, Hohenstein, and Latimer, and DG Bar has Gribaldi.  Can foals from those guys be registered?  I thought there was a need for the stallion owner or agent to pay a fee to the ATA, and I see on the ATA's list of stallions that no European stallions are on the active list.
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2001, 04:50:44 AM »

Hi:  I can only say from my personal experience with breeding Happy's sire, Induc here for several years via frozen semen.  I did a lot of legwork up front with the ATA before I even started, and I paid stallion dues for Induc - just as if he were standing in the U.S.  By doing this and keeping him current with the ATA, the foals were treated as if they were born on American soil.  And because he is an approved German Trakehner stallion, there was no issue  in "approving" him here.

Hope this helps you out.   Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2001, 05:03:55 AM »

Hi Renee,

That's one of the things that puzzles me.  Induc is listed as a past-active stallion with the ATA, and he seems to be the only European one who is.  I wonder what other people do about papering their frozen foals...  I guess I will have to tx the ATA on that....

You are no longer offering Induc, correct?
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2001, 06:54:34 AM »

I asked about this issue before.  What happens if the stallion isn't "licensed" with the ATA, but is Approved with the verband, then the mare owner must treat the foal like an imported horse. This means you pay a big "importation fee" to use the semen.  I am not sure how much this is - check the ATA fees on the site, and it should say how much it is to register an imported horse (I think it is something like $300).  It is a lot nicer when the person importing the semen just buys a license for the stallion and pays the $120!
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2001, 07:43:33 AM »

Foals by German stallions concieved via frozen semen are treated as imported horses during registration - the fee for registering such a foal is conciderably higher than for a domestic.  I think the fee structure as it exists makes things fair for all involved including those standing stallions in North America.  It's my opinion that if the ATA lowered the fees for frozen semen foals it would be unfair to the owners of stallions here that are paying breeding and registration fees.

I very much liked Renee's approach in marketing the Induc semen - by paying the registration and stallion fees with the ATA she made it much more affordable for her customers to register the resulting foals (which hopefully also increased the likelyhood that the foals would be registered with the ATA - however I have no statistics to back that up).  At the same time she was complying with the same financial requirements that our domestic stallion owners have to meet.  

Others who have marketed semen from German stallions have said it is not worth it for them to pay the fees - I'm not sure I agree with this.  If the marketer of the semen is also breeding to thier own mares and is planning on registering the resulting foals - the cost of the stallion fees would be recovered in saved registration fees.  Additionally they receive a little free marketing as the stallion is added to the list approved stallions that is distributed to the membership and anyone else that asks for one as well as being included on the website.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2001, 09:49:09 AM »

Hi Vicki - Great to see you here!!!!  Grin  I hope all is going very well for you these days!  Thank you for your feedback regarding our importation of Induc's frozen semen.  I did a lot of work up front to ensure that mare owners here would not have to pay additional fees.  

With regard to Suzette's inquiry - my partners decided to discontinue exporting Induc's frozen semen; however, I have the last straws which I am retaining for future use.  For any future breeding or sales, I am still their exclusive agent here and Canada.  During the time that Induc was bred here, all fees were paid to the ATA, etc., etc., and all foals were fully eligible for normal U.S. registration with the ATA - to the best of my knowledge.  He was bred to all purebred Trakehner mares, which resulted in a small number of excellent offspring.

In Induc's case, there was nothing that was puzzling.  We met the requirements and the resultant foals had no problem in being registered as if their sire were physically here.  In fact, I believe that in Induc's case, this was a "pilot" program, of sorts to see how it would work out.  What has been done since that time, I do not know.  

Hope this clarifies things a bit.  Smiley

Again Vicki - it's good to hear from you!
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