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I LOVE Trakehners!
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I really liked him at his classification.
I wonder if they will freeze him for export.
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Maren
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Benz and Buddenbrock were bred by the same man, Horst Ebert, and stand at the same farm, Hörem. Due to almost no business, Benz is no longer standing at stud officially, you can still breed to him and pay a slightly higher foal registration fee though.
Benz is one of the best movement producers in the Trakehner breed based on the Verband's index system. He competed at S level dressage. His pedigree is absolutely unique and it is a pity he is now old and nobody takes notice of him. Benz pedigree makes him an ideal dual-performance sire and he has produced competition horses for all disciplines.
During Benz' active years, Polarpunkt also stood at Hörem, as did Guter Planet and Guter Stern. Because big farms like Hörem tend to draw mare owners for generations, and because they also stood Consul and Rockefeller, and also stood Amigo the one year he was in Germany, you will see these being bred to each others offspring all the time. That is how "nicks" are created (if they work).
Now, Mr. Hanke, who owned some of these "E" line horses, a family developed and still maintained by Mr. Gelhar (Eddy's Magic!!) has done business with Hörem for many many years. ALL of his mares coming from his foundation mare Etana by Falke were by Hörem stallions (Ravel, Benz, Amigo etc). So you see them mixed a lot because geographically, they were close and driving a mare over to Hörem from Hameln (Hanke's home town) was very easy.
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So, there is no connections between Swazi xx, Saros xx, Nandino xx and Saint Cloud. Nandino xx stoo at Hörem for most parts of his breeding career. Swazi xx began his Trakehner career after his racing days at Rantzau (where Consul was produced) and then moved to stand at Gestüt Hörstein, next to Habicht, in Bavaria.
Saros xx was a maternal half brother to Swazi xx (which makes him so valuable), but stood nowhere near a big station.
Saint Cloud began his career as res champ in NMS, where he was bought at auction by the Nagel brothers who stood him in Bavaria, then moved him to Lower Saxony. He stood at Webelsgrund for a season, at Gestüt Mühlengrund for another few years and then at Gestüt Gröhnwohldof, where Karin Rehbein took him to an international Grand Prix dressage career. He was then sold to Switzerland and a few years ago, sold to Denmark. I sure wish this horse has a permanent home now.
Cluster breeding is just as common as before. The old networks exist, and now instead of driving your mare to your favorite SO, you order semen from him. AI killed the diversity of bloodlines, it didn't help to expand them. It's not as much a blessing as people like to think ...
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I LOVE Trakehners!
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But for us at the ends of the earth Frozen is a god send. It gives us access to stallions which we would never have had and expands our gene pool 
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Don't get me wrong, AI has HUGE positive effects as well (we've done frozen, fresh and the fun part where you ship your mare 600 km for that one stallion  ). The point is that the numbers have increased dramatically with AI, and that's not always a good thing.
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I agree that AI has it draw backs. Think how many great stallions came to fame because of a nick. And now that everyone can breed to a handful of animals, it reduces the chances of finding that diamond in the rough or the young unknown. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't stallions used to have areas. And if they could improve or produce with that group of mares then they got better mares and more? The upside is there is less guessing to using a proven horse, the downside is some horses never get the numbers to really prove themselves. It is also narrowing some of the genetics and breeders as it is hard for a local person in say Alberta to compete with the big farms, even though their stallion may be as good.
Also, as there was a thread on Coth, many people never even see the stallion they choose so marketing supersedes everything else. And with AI it is possible to have a WW market.
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