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Re: Coming for Inspection or Approval in '09
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2009, 01:20:15 PM »

Thinking about it.  It's my currently 4 yo.  Sure wish you guys lived around here so someone could offer an opinion! I did have a non Trak person ask me why I hadn't shown her in hand a few weeks ago so that's positive at least.  Money is also an issue so I need to carefully weight this decision. I now have a trailer I consider safe and TN is the closest the inspections generally come.

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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2009, 07:20:34 PM »

We will definitely be bringing at least one mare and foal and perhaps a 2 year old.  Wish I had a larger trailer, I'd bring more.
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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2009, 10:36:40 PM »

I will be bringing a new mare by Troy, if I get a snarl in her paperwork straightened out in time.  If not this year, probably a future year.  Depends on how much digging and rock-turning I have to do to get the snarl straightened out, but I can be stubborn when I want to be.   Smiley  She is already inspected and approved Oldenburg instead of ATA (because of the snarl), but she is Trakehner and will be shown this year and hopefully eventually bred as such. 
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« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2009, 11:12:51 AM »

Ok, so they have posted the inspection sites for 2009 - a total of 3 sites plus the annual meeting.  yikes....
Is this due to a lack of horses to be inspected, or due to a lack of host sites offerred?
Does anybody know?

And the only site for stallions is Tennessee?
It looks like I may not be presenting my stallion this year either - 8 to 10 hours is just too far for me to haul.....
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« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2009, 12:32:34 PM »

Right below the schedule there is an explanation of why there are few sites this year.  I have copied and pasted here.

"ATA 2009 Inspections Focuses on Annual Convention 

The central location of Murfreesboro, Tennessee appears to be the epicenter of the majority of ATA Trakehner horses nominated for inspection in 2009. The vast majority of nominated horses are within a 6 hour drive of the annual convention site at Tennessee’s Miller Coliseum near Nashville.

A few other sites have been set up allowing members to have mares inspected that are outside this range. Most areas did not have a volunteer host site nor were there an adequate number of nominated horses to justify an inspection.

The inspection schedule is subject to additions if an adequate number of mares can be assembled and a host site is volunteered from the membership."
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« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2009, 07:24:25 PM »

I think the shortest distance that I"ve hauled horses to be inspected was to the inspection that I hosted - and even that was 3 hours.  Every other inspection that I"ve taken a horse to was 10 or more hours and if I think about it, they might all be over 12 hours.  I just chalk it up to if they need to be inspected we go.  Doesn't mean I like it, just means that I suck it up.  But I also have to haul over 4 hours most of the time to go to rated shows (am lucky this year for once).  It is difficult when no one wants to host and inspection - I can vouch it is a lot of work, but it is also a lot of fun (in the end LOL) and is a great way to really meet everyone etc.  With prices going up for gas and airline tickets etc I can understand why the ATA can't/doesn't want to pay for tickets to mulitple sites esp when the attendence is low.  Wasn't there an inspection last year for one mare?  Now really - is that justified?? Unless the inspector lives close by that seems a waste of time/money.
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« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2009, 07:40:44 PM »

  Unless the inspector lives close by that seems a waste of time/money.

Is there a list of inspectors and where they live ?
Apparently  there are no inspections available for mares West of the Mississippi.
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« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2009, 07:47:56 PM »

There should be a list of the inspectors on the ATA website - I'd go and look but I'm going out to feed before we get round 3 (or is it 4, 5 or 6) of torrential rain (since Sat we have had about 14 inches of rain!  Shocked and are expected to get another 7 inches in the next 24 hours).

Not sure if it lists where they live though.  Some of the inspectors you just "know" where they live - Sam Eidt lives in AL for example - he has said in newsletters etc that he lives there and when he is at the inspections/conventions it says on his name tag where he is from...
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« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2009, 09:23:38 PM »

I ran the numbers, and it looks like 12-14 hours pulling a trailer.... ugh.
Anissa, that may seem easy to you, but I have a hard time justifying it.
I plan to go myself, but hauling horses that far just is not attractive to me at all.
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the cost of fuel, the two extra days for travel to have to take off of work and to be away from the farm... the wear and tear on young horses...
Doesn't sound like a lot of fun to me!
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I guess if I had a mare that I needed to get inspected because I was breeding her, it might mean that I would "have to buck up and do it". But that's not the case. I have a stallion to present for inspection, and he can just wait - or maybe I will present him to RPSI this year instead, as they will come to me if I ask them!
Or I'll just keep him in training.
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« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2009, 11:48:27 PM »

I received an email today that if all the mare owners had their paperwork together there would be an inspection here in Washington. Not that it helps you Suzette but we are west of the Mississippi! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2009, 02:53:01 AM »

I received an email today that if all the mare owners had their paperwork together there would be an inspection here in Washington. Not that it helps you Suzette but we are west of the Mississippi! Roll Eyes

Please explain.
I am in Washington as well, have my paperwork in order and have received no such email. Is there a host ?
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« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2009, 07:52:41 AM »

Suzette - I didn't post what I did as a slam against you, and frankly I DON'T like to haul that far - heck I don't like to sit in a car myself that far!  But I get a little frustrated that it always seems that everyone always complains about things (not enough inspections, inspections too far, oh there was an inspection but not enough horses, etc) but no one ever seems willing to acutally do anything about it.  There can't be an inspection if there is not a host.  In today's economy, it can't be justified to have an inspection somewhere for a handful of horses.  There is no happy medium here and it is frustrating for everyone concerned.  And the schedule could still change - if there were enough horses to warrent an inspection and if there was a host for the site the website states that another inspection site would be considered. 

When I presented Tate last year my options were to 1) travel to Maine with him, 2) travel to CA with him, or 3) try and get a site in FL (and that meant for my mom and I to host it).  3 frankly sounded a lot better than hauling to either Maine or CA with a mare and a stallion!  Not to mention cheaper in the long run!  There was already other interest in a mare/stallion inspection for the SE and once I found out that it might happen I lobbied and contacted everyone down here about presenting mares/stallions.  We stared out with only around 10 or so horses and ended up with over 20. 

My point is - if you want/need to have a horse inspected, look beyond your own herd and encourage friends, neighbors, the surrounding areas etc to get their horses inspected (don't forget about the PSB elig horses!).  Send out an email to eveeryone on the list within a few hours drive and see if they are willing to bring horses.  Have an idea of where you will host it.  Get the office involved and see if you have enough horses if they will help you "get it done". 

And yes, if I had not hosted an inspection I would have hauled to Maine.  For various reasons I wanted to get Tate inspected - I knew he was ready and I wanted to get it over with.  I could have waited, but I didn't want to and I had other reasons to getting him inspected at a younger age.  I wouldn't have liked it, but I would have done it.  I also break up long trips like that by staying with friends along the way.

And no, this isn't a "dig" at anyone - I'm just saying that sometimes we have to look beyond ourselves and outside the box to make things happen.
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« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2009, 08:17:46 AM »

Anissa, I have hosted two ATA inspections at my own farm already - both at my own expense and donating my own time.  If the association felt the need for me to do another, all they would have to do is ask, and I would have no problem with doing another. That isn't an issue.
There is a mare inspection at David Beattie's place this year - within about a 3 hour drive, so there isn't a need for a mare inspection in my area. But for stallions? Nope. I would have to haul all the way to Tennessee.
That is the problem.
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« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2009, 08:39:56 AM »

I know you have hosted in the past - and trust me I know what it entails LOL (which is a lot more $, blood, sweat and tears than some would think I imagine).  I don't think the ATA asks though for hosts - or at least not anymore.  I know that they did send out a request via the website that they were in need of an inspection site last year but no one came to me personally - they were lookign for volunteers...

As for a closer stallion inspection... it is frustrating I know.  Can you contact David to see if he has anything he wants inspected and perhaps they can change that venue to a mare/stallion inspection site?  I would still see if there were others in the area of the US that might have colts to be inspected and see if you can't raise the numbers.  Not saying it would work, but trying to brainstorm for ideas.  Smiley

For what it is worth, I did mention to a few people recently that I thought the 2010 Convention should be up in your neck of the woods because it seems that we haven't been there for a while.... Of course that would mean people from up there (you, David, Christina, who else is up there?) wanting to host one which is a major undertaking.  David's insepctions always have a large turn out I believe and I think it would be a good place since there are several TK breeders in the area...
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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2009, 03:25:38 PM »

If the 2010 inspection where close to here, I wonder if it would be possible to have Shadrach (even though now gelded) inspected- so that his two daughters o/o OSB mare could be inspected & his daughter o/o PSB mare could be inspected.  His daughter o/o PSB mare is beautiful, and I think
her quaility shines through past her injury.

We don't have any frozen semen from him, but it may just be worth it (if it where close) to have him and his foals inspected
so one or more of his daughters could be approved ATA.  I've
had a few stallions picked out for Faith for awhile now.  2010 sounds like a good time frame, this year wouldn't work out well
for us.
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« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2009, 05:56:12 PM »

Unfortunately, geldings are not elgible for inspection into the stud book, even if he had previously been intact and sired babies.
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« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2009, 10:04:35 PM »

Elfe, if all goes well it would be hosted by Anna Miles at her Blessed Fields Farm in Marysville (home of Ichi Ban and Arlington II) Last I heard it was potentially August 19th.
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« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2009, 10:14:48 PM »

Elfe, if all goes well it would be hosted by Anna Miles at her Blessed Fields Farm in Marysville (home of Ichi Ban and Arlington II) Last I heard it was potentially August 19th.

Thanks for the info. That would be awesome, it's only about 20 minutes from where I live.
Do you have mares to be inspected ?
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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2009, 11:17:30 PM »

I don't this time, I have a TB mare that was inspected when we hosted the annual meeting here and the rest of my band are part-breds. I did offer to come and help so I will be there to lend a hand should you need one. I have a 3yo gelding by Ichi that lives at Anna's out of an unregistered TB mare that is just getting going, he is looking pretty special!
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