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acottongim
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OK, well that would make sense (although I thought ebay just doesn't allow any live animal or human sales? I just thought it was THEIR rules as opposed to "internet rules"), but it could have been better advertised/organized I would have thought.
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It went out during dinner and was on the table with the other silent auction stuff... Like I said, we were RIGHT IN FRONT of the table and mom had no clue until it was mentioned once (that I heard) during dinner. The silent auction table was up for a while (would guess at least 15 mins but could have been more/less) and I only figured out that it was up when mom came outside and told me. Here is the drill... social hour started at 6:30, it was around 7 when mom came and told me that the table was up and to go check it out. There were LOTS of people still outside on the patio. I went into the dining room and there were only about 7 people or so (including me and mom) in the room bidding. Mom had to be close to the door due to health issues (she was leaving early for bed) so we happened to get the table next to the auction table. Dinner started at what? 7 or so?? I know that we were getting herded in around 7 or so, and dinner started later. The mare's sheet was not put out until we were well into our dinner (and we were the 2nd table to go get food) so it HAD to have been 7:30 or so at the earliest. I never heard the end of the bids, who won or anything... Just so not what I was used to at previous Conventions. Incidently, the announcement at dinner was the first time mom had heard of the mare being auctioned, although I did hear Glen announce it once or twice.
For the amount of time that we had at the LAEC, it could EASILY have been done that she could have been brought in and shown off.... She was not riding sound, but she was a cute mare and could make a good broodmare for someone and it would have benifitted the ATA. Aren't the mares that have been auctioned off normally placed where the stallion auction is? Not that it matters one way or the other, but the auction table was pretty laden down with goodies so it could easily have gotten mixed up in the shuffle...
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Shawnda
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The owner of the mare approached the ATA about donating her to the silent auction at the last minute. There was a sheet made up for her and placed on the silent auction table, but it was accidently shuffled under other bid forms as people looked through the numerous items. Glen Schmidt DID announce that there was a mare donated to the silent auction numerous times throughout the convention.
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Oh, I know Shawnda - I heard Glenn a couple of times announce her. He was doing his best.  And I know that the MO did this last min - it was a generous offer.
All that being said though there were several people that was surprised to learn that there was a mare that was auctioned off - they either didn't hear Glenn, they didn't see the auction bid sheet, or whatever.
We had HOURS of down time at the LAEC with nothing going on and people wandering around - some of that time could have been used (even last min) to promote that mare "in the flesh" so to speak. I don't think anyone really thought about it - but maybe if there is another one that is donated at a future convention (and the mare is present) this can be worked in somehow.
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Maren
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Actually, Suzette, there is a very easy reason for this. Amorous did not show well at all on day one, and showed extremely well on day 2. It's reflected in her scores (which, btw, in the mare show ere not bad at all) and hence, I think she picked the perfect day to show everything she has. We've seen the other way around as well (mare show winner is inspected with 47 points) and that is a lot more disturbing.
Other than that, I hope - and work on plans to help to create this - the ATA will finally do what other breed registries have been doing for a long time: have at least 2 judges per mare. Don't come with money - there are ways around this and a few of us are working on a proposal. It makes me sad every time I see it, and the feedback from the overseas visitors is the same every year: they don't understand it and find it very unfair. I tend to agree with that. I hope that's "fixable" in some time.
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Maren
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Joy, I meant to say that the common argument against having more judges from the ATA side is that it is too expensive. It is not, if you work it into a new inspection schedule and come up with other ideas. Hence, that argument doesn't do it for me. Will discuss when the time is right.
Kim, amen.
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For the questions about on-line auctions.
In case this helps: http://www.onlinefoalauction.com/
This was a very reputable sale, and I am sure if you wanted more info the organizers would help.
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Annisa - yes I can come to the convention. Send me an e-mail so we can discuss specifics! LanpherL@yahoo.com.
Everyone has great ideas about the mare that was up for auction....but unfortunately in this case I believe Shawnda is correct about the owner deciding last minute. I was helping with the silent auction when Brad came over and asked for a bid sheet so the owner could fill it out....after the auction had already started. I missed any announcements earlier in the day that might have given us a heads up.
As for the mare show vs. inspection discussions...isn't the mare show more on presentation and such where in the inspection some stuff wouldn't make a bit of difference...like if a horse is not clipped or not "presented" very well ("in-hand" ametuer at the end of the lead rope)? But of course, I also agree it will be different due to judge opinions. I've just never even given any thought to similar placement due to these other factors...or have I misunderstood the mare show? (regardless, I agree with having more than one judge for the inspections...especially at the annual meeting where they are available)
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« Last Edit: December 01, 2008, 01:01:43 PM by Laurie »
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I'd have to email her and find out. Don't the cattle breeders run live auctions over the internet? Or did I imagine that?
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