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Topic: QUESTIONS...Changes in the ATA (Read 1027 times)
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Tannenwald Trakehner
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TANZBRISE by Windfall out of Tariana
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I was very happy to read that the ATA was getting rid of the $100 transported semen "penalty." It is surprising to me that a realtively modest increase in dues across the board is expected to make up for the TS fees in overall revenue. I would think that the higher dues are not so high as to discourage membership by non-breeders, and the elimination of the fee may encourage more breeders. In particular, I think it will encourage the registration of foals with the ATA, because until now, the cheapest a foal produced by TS could be registered was $235 ($60 Bloodtyping, $75 foal reg, $100 TS). Now it will be $135, which makes a difference when you produce several foals a year.
What do you think?
What about the new futurity? Will the purses be comparable to the old system? I thought the plan was to have divisions for disciplines other than breeding and dressage, anyone know what happened there? What do breeders think of starting foal nominations across the board, as a marketing incentive? Do you think your clients will like that?
Now there is a "premium" designation given to stallions scoring 64 points. Anyone know what the possible score for stallions is? Is it 70 like for mares? I always figured that a stallion probably got approved with 56 points, similar to a mare's "model" designation. Or is the "premium" rating comparable to the "model" mare?
I wish that score sheets were divulged if only to know what categories the stallions are graded on.
What do you guys think of all of the changes?
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Lisabeth
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I would like to see Performance Credentials given to stallions and geldings also, just like mares. Why can't a gelding get a "Ps" or whatever? I think it would encourage performance horse owners to report what these horses are doing.
I suggested something similar in an e-mail to Helen Gibble and talked several years ago to Vanda Werner about it as well. I think the interest is there. At the next MWT meeting I hope to talk to Marcia if she is there and get her take on it. I am ALL for recognizing performance in our horses including geldings and stallions.
I think we need a program which will award owners of horses which compete in a variety of events and will be cumulative over the horse's career . In addition to the premium status awards of medals, I think something along the lines of International Arabian Horse Association merit awards based on accumulative points overall and not dependent strictly on high level competition would be useful.
It can be a long range goal for a gelding owner to earn say a thousand points and get a plus after its name and have a metal plaque to nail on the stall. This way every owner who wants a goal to shoot for can achieve recognition for their efforts even if they never win at fourth level. It provides a multi-tier recognition of our horses.
Our goal of competiting and promoting our horses to international standards would of course still be foremost in recognition, but the average owner (like myself) would also have a useful place in the organization and in promoting and enjoying the supreme rideability of the Trakehner horse.
Heck, I'd support something like the Morgan horse "patch" system from years ago which required you to keep a riding journal of hours spent in the saddle, trail riding, etc. You paid a fee for the program and when you had accumulated whatever number of hours in the saddle necessary you'd get varying "miles" awards. It was a program that recognized that by far the majority of owners were pleasure owners who spent most of the time just riding trails or hacking even if they also showed. It involved the horse owner in the organization and developed 'breed loyalty' and pride, as it were.
[quote author=Suzette As far as the "premium stallion" thing, I guess we really don't have a clue how selective this is, because we don't have any idea what the scores are currently. I mean, is a 64 extremely rare? Do 10% of the stallions get into this range, or 50%, or 1%? Not knowing this, we really can't comment.
I agree here as well. I would also like a premium stallion program which rewards stallions for siring high quality offspring and competiting. We have too little evaluation of stallions after the initial approval and then most stallions disappear from competition following their performance requirement. It's all extremely disappointing in evaluating what breeders are actually producing and how the Trakehner can really be measured against other horses. I think what I find most disturbing of all is that most of the stallions which do go on to performance careers wind up being gelded forthwith. Not a very promising trend. I am slightly skewed to those horses which are promising all arounders and "jumpers" which seem to hit the hunter crowd and become amateur and children's geldings. This is a side point which please forgive as I am rather ill at the moment.
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