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Joy
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He is just beautiful, Christina. I know you're concentrating on the Arab world for breeding, but do you plan to present him to the ATA at all?
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EclypseSporthorses
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He is just beautiful, Christina. I know you're concentrating on the Arab world for breeding, but do you plan to present him to the ATA at all?
Thanks, Joy, for the compliment on our boy. I did plan on presenting him, we have weighed out the thought of presenting him recently and I'm just not as surefire set on presenting him as I used to be. Mainly because I don't think there's a niche for him in the stallion line up.
He is not by many's standards, tall...he is mainly an endurance horse...I don't really see a market for him in the ATA.
There are already ox approved stallions if someone wants to add Arabian, he already has brothers approved that do excel in jumping and dressage...and ATA already has a half Arabian.
On the other hand, the Arabian mare owners that like him are looking for Sweepstakes Nominated sire (we've already invested over $4,000 into Nomination).
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Joy
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Consider this, Christina: The ideal place for the ox or xx is 4th generation. For those who want some Arab blood without crossing directly with an Arab, he'd be ideal. Then, too, endurance is a wonderful sport, which shows the versatility of the Trakehner, and the value of adding the Arab. Eventers need the stamina that endurance bloodlines evidence. And I'd love to see more TK's make their mark in the endurance world.
I have a 2 y.o. TK filly that's 1/4 Arab, and, though I'm not sure yet whether she's really broodmare material, she's most likely a great endurance prospect. (Her dam could go 25 miles and call it a warmup when she was fit.) That makes your stallion very interesting to me. I hope you haven't yet entirely ruled out presenting him.
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I haven't totally ruled it out, though since he is an endurance horse, to performance test him I'd have to send him to an eventer for training & performance in xc. I don't enjoy xc at all, mainly because while showing in Kentucky once, I rode around the Rolex course edited to add*by around, I mean I rode the little Arab stallion I was showing *past* the jumps, on a trail ride, not *around* like OVER, *around* around, like sitting on the horse LOOKING at the jumps***
and couldn't believe the scope and difficulty, the danger of death and injury seemed to loom over most of the obstacles. Having my horse in an event would honestly be scary for me, it is not something I'd want him to do. The rider/trainer I trust and would have used moved to Kentucky. The expense and uncertainty make sending him away to train for and do xc, something I have no desire for is a less than appealing process right now. Is it true that two horses were killed at Rolex, and a rider injured? I know there is risk with every sport, though I would much rather not have my horse in xc, it is a personal thing for me & my horse. I totally support my friends that do it, there's nothing wrong with it, the trainer that moved to KY is awesome and we keep in touch, hope to see her doing xc in Olympics someday.
We already did invest a large amount to sweepstakes nominate.
His daughters are beautiful, full of balance, femine type, athletic and he is very prepotent, ( & a filly producer thus far w/5 girls 1 boy) I do see where he could be valuable, already having the 1st hit of Arabian blood taken in, and is daughter o/o our Trakehner mare is 3/4 Trakehner 1/4 Arabian, so her foals will be a just right amount of Arabian, for me.
I will not rule out an inspection, because of his daughter I own, and his other daughters. Honestly I thought about it if there was an inspection in St. Louis again, but nothing in site for St.Louis again, as of yet. I also wanted him to be solid at third level, though I can only compete in Endurance right now, so that time line isn't added in there yet, either.
Peron's Brilliance is 1/2 Arabian, and he seems to be a good horse, Olympic sire, though he isn't used much in the breed, to my knowledge, or is he? Don't see why Shadrach would get more use than Peron's Brilliance, especially since PB is from an Olympic medalist sire....so, no, I guess I'm not in a hurry..... though I do take it as a compliment that you would consider him for your mare, thank you. He is, somewhere between 15.2+ and 15.3hh, not the modern height, though perfect for 5'5" me. 
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I follow your endurance adventures with Shad with great interest. I've always wanted to get into endurance, even bred myself an endurance "toy" last year - by an Arabian and out of my Mustang. Picture of said endurance toy below, 1 year 7 days. I can't wait for him to grow, and I might even fit in a few 25s with my TK/CB mare if possible while waiting for him. She is big, muscular, and heavy, though, so I can't see her going past 25s, and she loves her dressage. Breeding her this year, too.
If Toccata continues to develop, I might possibly be interested in breeding Missy (Lucky Mistake. God only knows what is in there) to a true endurance horse for endurance toy #2, if you aren't limiting Shad to registered mares. Maybe next year. I'm just dealing with breeding the Traks this year.
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Congratulations! I have been following Shad and have told my farrier about the 1/2 Trak that's been doing endurance. You and he are great ambassador's for our breed! Being in Kentucky, I wonder if you might share the information on the trainer you loved that moved here? 
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It's impossible to speculate what the inspection commission would allow for performance requirements in the area of endurance. If I were you, I'd pick up the phone and call or email one of the inspectors and see what they say. I doubt they would dismiss a good finishing in the Tevis Cup!
As far as allowing TB's & Arabians that have raced to skip out on the eventing, I think the horse actually had to do well in it's previous career. I don't have the impression that I could take a marginally successful TB, get it approved and skip the eventing because it won a few hundred bucks.
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We love telling people about the breed, and I think endurance is a great sport for Trakehners. Jenna Strauss is the trainer that moved to Kentucky to follow her Olympic dreams. She is wonderful to watch Jump. She did evaluate Shadrach for me before to see if he could go xc and she loved riding him as he is smooth, responsive and willing to jump and pretty brave about it.
I don't think a horse would have to do Tevis to prove it's mettle in endurance. Tevis is the toughest, probably the most dangerous Endurance ride in the world. There are 100 mile one day races all across the country. There are also 2 day 100 mile races, and multi day rides like the shore to shore in Michigan, and Endless Valley in WI.
Placing well in 100 mile rides or even fifties would be a great test of performance and soundness. I didn't think of asking ATA for the stallion performance, though I had thought of it for the *PB* *PS* *PG*.
I am glad I have taken it slowly with Shadrach, his legs look amazing. Can't wait to see how it goes this season. Will try our first fifty, most likely in June, just before Ella is due.
Blessings to you all, and feel free to check out the brief video linked on our website. It shows his yearling daughter and him briefly. I'd appreciate a private message on how you think he moves & if it is appealing to TK owners.
Trakehners2000@aol.com
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Alicia
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Great photo's ES, he looks absolutely stunning!
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