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Coastal hay and ilium impaction
« on: February 03, 2007, 04:31:28 PM »

Well, this has been the worst week!  On Tuesday we put down our old gelding, and then last night we had to rush Abby to UF vet clinic due to colic.  The vet told me of a link between coastal bermuda hay and ilium impaction colic.  Was wondering if you guys have heard of this.  Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2007, 08:08:02 PM »

Wendi, no, but I'm not in that part of the country.  Very sorry to hear about your troubles.   A client lost her 30-something mare the other day to impaction.   How cold is it where you are?  That does seem to be an instigator of tummy troubles.  It's pretty brutal in NW IN where I live, and will be so for several days.


And my mare is not herself tonight.  I hope she was just cold (she was shivering a bit even under her bear-like coat).  I gave her a bucket of warm water with a little sugar in it, and will check on her in an hour or two.
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Re: Coastal hay and ilium impaction
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2007, 10:19:01 AM »

I have heard of this and it has been an ongoing debate for years.  Personally, I have fed Bermuda for over 20 some years and never had a problem with it.  I am sorry to here about your recent loss and wishing and praying for Abby to have a speedy recovery. 
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Re: Coastal hay and ilium impaction
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2007, 11:01:17 PM »

Fuzzy's comment about cold weather (and her 'home remedy' - which we use as well - of warm water) hits home w/me.  I've never had issues w/Coastal bermuda, but have seen horses reduce their water intake when temps fall below 40 and water in buckets is icy and that's when problems ensue.

When temps are in the 30's everyone gets a full bucket of warm water at our final barn check of the evening.  We'll walk to the stall w/a 'steaming' bucket of water, and barely make it into the stall before their head's in the bucket, drinking greedily.  Many times I've had one drain nearly 1/2 of the bucket while I stand holding it. 

This is the best trick I know for keeping 'em hydrated in cold temps.  Best wishes for a speedy recovery for Abbey!
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Re: Coastal hay and ilium impaction
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2007, 10:56:50 AM »

This is an issue here.  In fact one very well respected vet here absolutely pitches a fit if he knows you feed coastal bermuda.  He feels there are lots more episodes of impaction colic with it -- he thinks because it is so fine.

I have used it for years and years and never had a problem with it, but I feed soaked beet pulp as well as soaked alfalfa cubes the last 5-6 years and maybe that keeps it moving and keeps everything hydrated.  I also feed other types of hay (tifton bermuda, orchard, and mixed grasses, bluestem, etc.)  We feed round bales primarily and alternate types of hay and origin although I'm sure they all use similar fertilizers.
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2007, 01:17:30 PM »

My beautiful boy is currently at UF with a ilium impaction from round rolls of coastal hay.  He is doing well and should be home on Wednesday - fingers crossed.  Barn manager and I are having discussions on how to fix this as Reno is the third horse in the last couple of weeks to travel to UF with colic.  My vet and the vet at UF feel the horses are just stuffing themselves stupid and because the cut is fine they really enjoy chowing down on it.  This whole incident has sworn me off round rolls forever and I'll be keeping mine well away if the barn decides to continue feeding hay this way even if it is on a 12 hour rotation schedule.


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Re: Coastal hay and ilium impaction
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2007, 03:33:08 PM »

JMO, but I don't think the issue is round bales.  If the horses are not used to having hay accessible all the time, that could be the reason they're stuffing themselves.  I've fed square bales and round, but I have hay available 24 hours a day, and my horses never pig out.  I'd guess the problem may be the hay itself, possibly the fineness, or perhaps because it's not a mixed hay.  Here in Maine we have several pasture grasses growing together.  You almost never find just one type of hay in a field.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2007, 07:24:44 PM »

My vets also feel it is an issue of the fineness of the hay, not the fact that it is in a round bale.  They just don't chew it like they should --- and like they do when it is coarse.

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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2007, 07:50:43 PM »

Hey Jane, glad to hear your boy is coming home soon (I had a Reno that I had to give away after my divorce a few years ago, I love that name).  It has been over a month since Abby's experience, and she is doing wonderful (knock on wood). 

I am doing everything I can for her.  Timothy hay, electrolytes, psyllium once a month, bran mash once a week, so the rest is up to her.  She is back in light work and is enjoying being ridden again.  Good luck to everyone!

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ps the coastal hay she was on was in bales, not rolls
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Re: Coastal hay and ilium impaction
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2007, 08:49:46 PM »

Eileen & Joy,  I think you are probably right about the fineness of the cut.  All the horses at our barn (22) have been on the round rolls since September/October.  I guess it is just the cut that is making them eat more than usual,and maybe they aren't chewing it well enough to pass it through.  Add the fact that they don't drink so much in winter and it is a recipe for disaster.  We are just trying to eliminate the possibility of another episode.

Wendi, I'm glad Abby is doing so well.  The two here that came back last week from UF are doing well, although it is going to be a long haul for the poor little guy that had surgery.  I was thoroughly impressed with UF and the level of care that they took, and look forward to having my boy home soon.

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