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« on: July 22, 2005, 09:20:41 AM »

I have a broodmare that I am thinking to place in a good home. I want her to go to Trak breeder, and the home must be an approved, permanent situation. I will not allow her to fall into a bad situation, and so she is welcome to remain with me if the right home is not found.

She is a proven producer, OSB, Tizian/Ibikus, 15yrs, 17.0H, bay sabino.

She is not an 'easy breeder' but is definitely breedable. She has produced 3 fine, healthy, beautiful foals, the last one born in '04. The only reason that I am not using her this year is that she does not cycle well until July through October. All of her foals have been born in July/August. I don't want to breed in the fall!
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She is kind and sweet, the very best mom, very beautiful, but not sound due to an old founder. She does very well in a herd situation, and  is an easy keeper, requiring no special maintenance.

It is a shame that this great mare is going to stand -unused- in my back pasture when she should be used for breeding. If someone is interested in her, please call me for more information.
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2005, 04:56:05 PM »

Thanks to everyone who called. We have some truely wonderful folks in the "Trakehner World".  I am pleased to say that this mare will be making a trip out to Amanya in California.
Thanks Amanya for giving my 'little' girl a fabulous home. And now that we are 'family', I will have to come out to visit you both. We will miss her.
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May she give you many lovely babies in the coming years....
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2005, 05:45:15 PM »

Glad to hear of a successful placement! Congratulations Amanya, and Suzette  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2005, 05:50:15 PM »

Suzette:  I am so glad to know you found your mare a perfect situation. I wish Amanya the very best with her new friend and that she does, in fact, have many more beautiful foals... Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2005, 12:34:17 AM »

 Cheesy  Thank you Suzette for this super opportunity to have this lovely lovely mare. We are so excited !

She and Kasserine will have many good days, swapping baby stories as their respective "kids" frolic together under the oak trees in our pasture.

Of course we expect visits !  Suzette HAS to come out now, without a doubt; and all you other other Trakehner owners/lovers have a standing invitation to our little ranch tucked in the foothills of the Sierras.
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2005, 01:19:43 PM »

Congratulations to Amanya and Suzette:  I know without a doubt your mare will have the best home imaginable!  Amanya, I got your email and will respond as soon as possible -- life has been VERY busy lately.  The "man" is doing fabulous so I'll fill you in soon!  Hugs, kisses and carrots to all and again, congratuations! Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2009, 03:22:31 PM »

http://americantrakehner.com/Saleslist/LVee.htm

Is this the same mare ?
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2009, 08:54:09 AM »

Yes, it is....
It is heartbreaking to do what you think is the right thing for  a horse to ensure the very best home for them. To do so with no financial gain in mind. And then to see this a few years later....
What can I say? 
A depressing testimony to human nature, and the reason why I find that I cannot continue to breed more horses. I feel far too much responsibility, and cannot just look away.

I am so disappointed in people.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 10:46:26 AM »

Oh, Suzette, I'm so sorry this has happened.  Cry Angry
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Yes, it is....
It is heartbreaking to do what you think is the right thing for  a horse to ensure the very best home for them. To do so with no financial gain in mind. And then to see this a few years later....
What can I say? 


That makes me so angry!!     Angry Angry    If the "permanent home" could no longer keep her for whatever reason, they should have given you the option of taking her back or contacting the "Trakehner Network" in an attempt to find her a true permanent home.

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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2009, 12:51:41 PM »

Yup! That would be the "honorable" thing to do.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2009, 01:39:24 PM »

I'm pretty naive, but I would like to think/hope that the MAJORITY of us breeders would have done the proper thing and contacted Suzette first, and if she had not been in a position to take her back, then offer her for cost of shipping or free.... It boggles my mind what people do sometimes.  I don't know about others but I do keep a tally of certain things and this type of situation is one of them. 

I'm sorry Suzette!  Has this individual contacted you since this thread was reopened about taking her back? or seeing if you knew of a home for her?
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2009, 01:54:54 PM »

I'm so sorry, Suzette. 

I can't imagine ever sending a free horse on elsewhere - or ANY horse, for that matter - without contacting the breeder/previous owner first to let them know. 
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2009, 06:55:32 PM »

Just a question (and Suzette you can PM me if you would rather not say in "public")... but is Amanya the person that is selling this mare? Or did she change hands after Suzette gave her to Amanya?  Either way it is pretty sad - esp since I remember calling about this mare and talking at length to Suzette about taking her.  I remember vividly Suzette talking to me about how she wanted her to go to a home that would keep her, that she understood that no one knew what tomorrow would bring but that she wanted a "forever" type home for her and that she was very concerned about where this mare went etc.  I think I was axed because I didn't have enough pasture for her and there were so many others that had the pasture space etc...
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2009, 07:09:33 PM »

Must be a different person since Amanya was in California and this seller is in New Mexico.
If there is a bright side to this, it is that, at least, she is asking a good chunk of money and hopefully the mare is not going to end up badly.
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2009, 07:35:33 PM »

Has anyone thought of contacting this person to find out if this is the first time the horse has been offered for sale?  If not, then I would remind the person that a horse freely given with the idea it would have a permanent home should be offered to the original giver.  If the current owner bought the horse, she should at least be made aware of the history, for the mare's sake as well as her own.   Undecided

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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2009, 08:14:02 PM »

I think that is a good idea. This owner may not have a clue of the mare's history.

Wonder if there was a stipulation that all offspring would have to go through the original "gift" owner for registration paperwork Roll Eyes Propably to complicated, but something in the sale should have a clause for this or the sale of the mare.
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2009, 08:54:34 PM »

It appears from the name and location, that the mare has changed hands at least once since she left my hands....
I have no idea, as I was never contacted by anyone about needing to give her up.
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I never wrote any sort of contract, as I didn't think it had been needed. I have "given" away horses before, and never had a problem like this. A couple of them have been returned over the years, and I was able to find them new homes.
This is the first time that this has ever happened to me, and I just am floored.

Perhaps I was naiive. I just have more faith in people than I should, I guess.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2009, 09:21:50 PM »

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I did not mean that you should of wrote up this kind of contract. I don't know if anyone does or if any registry would deal with it. It is a shame that this happens. Another idea would be to hold the mares papers, but this may also lead to other complications Undecided

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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2009, 09:33:39 PM »

I do think that someone should email the current owner (or seller) of the horse.  As for contracts etc - I think that some of us (Suzette, myself, and prob others of us out there) rightly or wrongly hope/believe that esp with such a small breed as we are that a specific contract on a "free" or reduced rate mare is not needed.  I have done several verbal contracts over the past couple of years - and haven't had anything specifying any particular conditions in writing.  I guess we all need to relook at that practice.  Such a shame.  Although even horses with strong written contracts aren't guaranteed what happens to them. 
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2009, 04:10:28 PM »

Suzette - I am much like you in having faith that others will make decisions like me....unfortunately that is not always the case.  A big beautiful broodmare will always be valued and as such looks like dollar signs to some.  Even if Amanya gave her away thinking, like you, that she was placing her in a forever home, she should have contacted you at the very least.  I would definitely call the current owner to find out what the story is.  Someone has certainly taken advantage of someone in this situation.  Let us know what you hear!   
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2009, 04:23:08 PM »


Suzette, if you talk to the your old mare's sellers, please let us know how it went.  I know if and old horse of mine turned up like that, I'd be in touch with the current owners to at least find out exactly how the horse is doing.  I know the right thing was not done by you, but we can at least hope that the right thing was done for the horse . . . . .
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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2009, 06:24:58 PM »

Suzette:  I'm very hopeful you have tried to contact Amanya.  I remember Amanya being very excited about giving your mare a new home and at that time, had the perfect place in which to provide all the TLC your mare could ever want or need. 

While I definitely am not privy to any details, sometimes very tragic things occur in people's lives and sometimes they have to make incredibly difficult decisions (we did only to have our horse euthanized who could have been saved).  And sometimes, we are so caught up in our own survival and priorities, that we can't always communicate in the way we would normally do.

I know Amanya very well and I know in my heart that her intentions are always most honorable.  I am so fortunate that we share such a friendship. 

I do not know any details about what may have happened to your mare, but I'm very hopeful you will obtain some closure.
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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2009, 06:29:15 PM »

I sent an email, but have heard nothing back...
I hope she is ok. I was concerned for her also. The whole thing seemed out of character.
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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2009, 09:27:38 PM »

Suzette - I can share with you is that Amanya has impeccable character, honesty and integrity - probably more than most, and always 110% (not a typo), she is always for her horses well-being, health and happiness, always putting their best interests first...
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