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Tzigane's first foal of 2005 - Sam the Man!!
« on: March 09, 2005, 08:04:44 AM »

Pr. St. Schoene Symphonie delivered a liver chesnut colt with a huge, heart-shaped star on his forehead and two white hind socks.  

He was trying to get up before his legs were out of mom and once he made it up, hasn't been back down since.  This is one big, strong colt so of course his stable name's already been chosen: Sampson (Sam for short)!   Kiss

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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2005, 09:02:43 AM »

Congratulations!  He sounds wonderful!  By the way, I love the name Sampson.   Smiley  I don't have a baby coming this year and can't wait to see pictures of everyone elses.

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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2005, 10:27:36 AM »

Yeah!  Glad to hear he's doing so well, congratulations.  Kiss Sym (and Sam) for me!  Sym and Sam, too cute  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2005, 12:33:47 PM »

wooohoooo 1 down 1 to go.
Cograts Kim can't wait to see photo's.  Grin
kisses from me and his 1/2 brother Knight.

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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2005, 02:13:09 PM »

Sam the Man!

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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2005, 02:19:07 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2005, 02:21:13 PM »

Sam says HI!

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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2005, 02:22:09 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2005, 02:23:24 PM »

Final one.  Sam on the move!

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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2005, 05:15:29 PM »

Congratulations. I know where you will be now. Get some sleep.
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2005, 06:51:18 PM »

Oh, my! He is a strapping colt, isn't he!  And is Symp a proud mom, or what!   Congratulations.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2005, 09:20:29 PM »

Yes, he's a moose.  Poor Sym, he really needs to get her something special for mothers day!  We'll hopefully get some sleep after tonight; it looks like Hennie's going to have hers any time now so hopefully I can just go 48 hrs. w/little or no sleep and catch up on the weekend.  

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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2005, 10:50:01 PM »

Beautiful boy, Sym!  I can't wait to meet him in person.  Sym passed that heart, didn't she?  And Taz, a boy daddy thus far, right?  Hennie's in my prayers for a healthy foal.  I hope you get some sleep tonight.  Many good thoughts here from us at Gryphon.
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2005, 02:41:52 AM »

Yes, so far only boys for Taz.  (I think it's part of his 'master plan' . . . if only boys, then every mare on the place is still a potential "dance partner" for him.)

As you can tell from the time this is posted, we're on foal watch again tonight.  Hennie's ready to go any time (which means she'll probably make me wait at least one more night . . .why should I be comfortable when she's so fat?!)  Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2005, 09:11:35 AM »

He's awesome!!!

Thanks for posting the pictures...keep them coming!
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2005, 12:27:21 PM »

He is so cute!  Congratulations!  
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2005, 08:46:50 PM »

Mom (Pr. St. Schoene Symphonie) & Sam had their first outing in the paddock today.  

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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2005, 10:28:55 PM »

What a lovely colt!  Seriously!  Congratulations!
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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2005, 03:41:01 PM »

Beautiful baby (and mom's not too shabby either  Cool)  Congratulations Kim!
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2005, 07:53:21 AM »

Lovely little boy!  Just look at those legs...
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2005, 08:02:24 PM »

He is adorable.  Where did he get that chestnut color? Wink

Congratulations.  You could send him my way if you get tired of him.
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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2005, 07:42:05 AM »

The chesnut color is probably via Taz - I was willing to ascribe Herzmond's color ('04 foal) to Hennie, since she has two chesnut sisters, but I don't think it runs in Sym's family. 

Taz's grandsire (Rondo) was chesnut and sired at least one approved son in Germany (E.H. Friedensfeurst) of this color. Graditz had several chesnut offspring, including the ATA-approved stallion, Donnerkeil.  Interestingly, the chesnuts from that line tend to be tall - and Sam looks like he's no exception.  We'll see . . . genetics re: color genes confound me!  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2005, 08:31:43 AM »

Chestnut is actually recessive, so you can only get it if both parents carry the allele.  Breeding to a chestnut stallion, for example, guarantees that the foal will get one chestnut allele. If the dam contributes a chestnut allele as well (even if she is NOT chestnut herself, but carries the allele) then you will get a chestnut foal.  Chestnut effectively masks the rest of the base color genes.

So:
  • chestnut x chestnut = chestnut 100% of the time
  • chestnut x non-chestnut but chestnut carrier = chestnut 50% of the time, and non-chestnut but chestnut carrier 50% of the time
  • non-chestnut but chestnut carrier x  non-chestnut but chestnut carrier = chestnut 25% of the time (and non-chestnut non-carrier 25%, and non-chestnut but chestnut carrier 50%)
  • chestnut x non-chestnut non-carrier = non-chestnut but chestnut carrier 100% of the time
  • non-chestnut non-carrier x non-chestnut non-carrier = non-chestnut non-carrier 100% of the time

So Symphonie definitely carries the chestnut allele.  Given the number of chestnut horses, and the fact that it's expression is recessive, one could assume that most horses in fact carry one chestnut allele (or two, obviously, if they are chestnut themselves!)
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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2005, 11:03:10 AM »

Congratulations on your new arrival - super looking youngster.  And great pics too!  Very best wishes with your new boy!  Cheesy
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2005, 08:03:20 PM »

Sam is intent on exploring everything and everyone.  Today he wanted to know about my shampoo.

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